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Wednesday, March 19, 2008

Conspiracy theories and a bigoted Catholic Bishop


Seems the plan of those degenerate LGBT people to take over the world, corrupt the innnocents and destroy society as we know it has been twigged by one Bishop Devine. Darn, the Catholic Church is now on the case:



The Rt Rev Joseph Devine, Bishop of Motherwell and president of the Catholic Education Commission, said gay rights organisations aligned themselves with minority groups, such as Holocaust survivors, to project an "image of a group of people under persecution".

He warned that the gay lobby – which he labelled "the opposition" – had mounted "a giant conspiracy" to shape public policy.

"It is ever-present at the service each year for the Holocaust memorial, as if to create for themselves the image of a group of people under persecution. We neglect the gay movement at our peril.

"I want to ask you if you are able to see the giant conspiracy that's taking place before our eyes, even if we didn't see it at the time. I take it you're beginning to see that there is a huge and well-orchestrated conspiracy taking place, which the Catholic community missed."

He went on: "In this New Year's honours list, I saw actor Ian McKellen being honoured for his work on behalf of homosexuals, when a century ago Oscar Wilde was locked up and put in jail. "It's a very small group of people, but very active and organised – and extremely indulgent. The opposition know exactly what they're doing. We don't."

Calum Irving, the director of Stonewall Scotland, said the bishop was "deluded", pointing out that the Catholic Church had much greater wealth and political influence than the gay rights lobby. He said: "So Bishop Devine has decided it's time to have a go at lesbian and gay people again.

"I would defend the bishop's right to practise his faith and yet he would deny me basic dignity and respect. Worse, he appears to hanker after an age when Oscar Wilde was put in jail for being gay. Worse still, he seems to infer that gay people have no right to be remembered as victims of the Holocaust."

After Bishop Devine's lecture, entitled Sectarianism and Secularism: Bugbears for the Catholic Church in Scotland, one audience member asked how Catholic parents should "come to terms with a child's mission to become homosexual".

The bishop replied: "This must be a nightmare moment for any parent. There are many days when I'm glad to not be a parent. I would try to handle it with a degree of compassion, but I would not tolerate (it]."

Bishop Devine also cited the battles over Clause 28, legalising civil partnerships and same-sex adoption.

He said prominence had been given to the "supreme moral values of liberty and equality" replacing "truth and goodness" as supreme moral values.

Bishop Devine continued: "It was bound to result in state-sponsored morality at war with Christian values. We must resist being corrupted by secularism."


Reading through this rant I fail to notice much kindness or to use his words 'goodness'. He comes across as quite hateful, seeming to prefer a time when gay people were imprisoned . He denies ,or at best downplays, the very real persecution faced by lesbian and gays in Nazi Germany . He proudly states he would be intolerant of a child who was lesbian or gay. Yep, lets fuck up kids (sometimes literally in the Catholic Church), make them feel guilt about who they love.

The reality is that lesbian and gay people , along with a number of other groups and alongside Jews, were victims of the holocaust.

The reality is that LGBT people still, in this country , face discrimination , attacks and are sometimes killed .

The reality is that children brought up by religious parents can be made to feel guilty, pressurised to be 'straight' and are sometimes disowned.

I do wonder why religious people get so wound up about those who do not believe and do not live to their codes of behaviour. Why are they so threatened by it if their faith is so strong ? Why can't they just let others be and what is this obsession with what other people do in the bedroom ...or anywhere else for that matter :-)

Picture : the pink triangle,which was one of the Nazi concentration camp badges, used by the Nazis to identify male prisoners in concentration camps who were sent there because of their homosexuality.

hat tip: New Humanist Blog

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